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  • zigma
    08-01 07:29 AM
    Looking at this scenario, it makes all the more sense to move to Canada.
    Unless US starts skilled immigration, it is destined to become a 3rd world country. China would overtake it as the largest economy.
    It is estimated that in about 20-30 years the worker:retiree ratio would be 2:1, thereby having a large tax on the employed.

    There are lots of interesting articles on this subject.
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  • nav_kri
    02-23 01:52 AM
    Truly amazing. Winning not one but 2 Oscars. ARR is awesome with his calm and composure.

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  • makemygc
    07-06 11:30 AM

    Here are my thoughts:

    There are Four group of people (Became current with July bulletin) who are affected and suffered.

    1) The people whose applications reached to USCIS before 10:00 AM
    07/02/07, i.e. before USCIS's new revision/update.

    Note: Legally this group is the SAFEST one as their file reached to the
    USCIS table on time while USCIS's first bulletin was in effect. Their
    case is strong as far as "Law and Justice" is concerned.

    2) The people whose applications reached on 07/02/07 but after USCIS's
    declaration of new revision.

    Note: This group can be fit in a category "Who did not receive ample
    notice from USCIS for its intention to change the bulletin. And so
    may be considered "Probable beneficiaries" by the judiciary

    3) The people whose applications reached or will reach to USCIS from any
    time between 12:00 AM 07/03/07 to 11:59 PM 07/31/07.

    Note: This group will have a "Strongest" weak argument and case. Their
    act of sending files perhaps may not be considered "Law-abiding" as
    they have already received ample notice from USCIS and clear
    statement of USCIS about "Rejecting applications upon receiving"
    then also this group sent the applications.

    4) The People who will not send applications at all with respect to the
    USCIS's revision.

    Note: In my oinion and mostly I believe in Judiciary's opinion thsi group will
    be considered "Law-abiding" and who acted as per USCIS's
    instruction within the periphery of respecting legal authority.

    Now other points to be noted are as under:

    DOS and USCIS screwed up? Yes... Did not happen ever and now it happened , yes.. People suffered stress..expenses.. yes. Now what we must stress on is one time bulletin per month is a tradition and it is a long time tradition but probably DOS has a power to change that... It seems that there is no such law that DOS can not do that so there exactly Lawsuite filer may have a week case. Nos USCIS is supposed to follow DOS and make bulletin as per DOS's guideline and that is what USCIS did so where is the "Law-Breaking" ? USCIS acted perfectly in legal manner. Probably if Lawsuite filer decide to file the lawsuite on the basis of "Why the helll USCIS decalred "All Current" at the first place" then there they have a chance to make a case strong but if they go another route like "Why USCIS revised the bulletin" then I personally do not see "much worth".

    Now having said this, to me it looks like whether you file till in July or not OR whether you become plantiff or not, it should not matter. AILF and/or any other organization ethically and perhaps legally can not define "Class" narrowly to the limited group of people. If real justice is prevalent in this country judiciary should not allow any entity to define "Class" narrowly. To me "ALL affected" is the "Class" and if judiciary is considering it as a "class action" then it should consider "All affected" as a class. Now US justice system would go this way, I do not know but if it is not going that way then I would consider that as abig black loop hole in justice system itself. My guess is that if AILF would go defining "Class" narrowly, there will be some mechanism by which individually or with group you should be able to challenge that legally as well.

    Now Judiciary, in my opinion may not take stand that ok this is a "Class lawsuite" and now Mr.X has become the plantiff so he would only be the beneficary if lawsuite is won. Either ALL affected should be considered for whatever the benefits come out ot everbody looses it. Same argument goes for people who are not filing. By not filing they are obeying the leagl instruction of government department of USA and for that they should not be punished and can not be punished by not granting any benefit to them whereas granting the benefits to the people who clearly challenged USCIS's revision by filing from 07/03 and onwards....

    If USCIS is smart, it should accept all files now and create the process to have them rotted in the queue for years and that way it will be able save it face and limit on visa numbers wil automatically send whole bunch of files for eating the dust for years.

    I personally see our strong point only at have reimbursement of the money and time if "We are not getting current before one year (Validity of Medicals)

    Any thoughts?

    How do you define "All effected"?

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  • dks
    05-11 12:24 PM
    Can anyone tell me which version of the bill are we talking about ? i mean there were several different bills the last time around and finally hagel-martinez version was selected??? which is it this time??


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  • dixie
    11-18 03:51 AM
    I think there are plenty of people who always planned to go back .. the GC /USC was just a career advancement tool for these people. In fact, a survey of US returnees to India after 2000 shows that the majority (around 60%) were USCs/ GC holders, which is clearly an indication that the relocation was by choice rather than any immigration issues.

    There are many factors which make the adjustment/re-starting issues bearable : In many cases, the country you will go back to will be a much improved place from the one you left.Besides, many of us immigrated not because we were desperate to get out of our home country; but rather because at that particular point in our careers going abroad was the best way forward. After close to decade's worth of experience in USA, many find that the best way forward now is to go back to your home country .. thats becoming more and more common with globalization. And finally, many of us have family issues like taking care of aged parents which either makes the re-location inevitable or in some cases may coincide with career goals.

    Personally, i think returning to one's home country solely because of retrogression is not advisable and has the potential to cause lots of frustration and disappointment.

    I just wanted to get this discussion back on track of ppl wanting to be able rise up a little, let their wives work and feel the freedom to make a decision to go back.

    Let me restart the discussion. I know we are all frustrated to the extent that we want to pack up and leave but we have invested too much time to do that. But let's assume things start moving and we get our GC's in a year or so. Having spent so many years waiting to "settle" would you be willing to unsettle your life again and start over in a country that you left more than a decade ago.

    Note that I am not doubting anyone's intention or disrespecting any entry. Just wondering if its the frustation talking or there are ppl who would actually leave?

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  • gcpadmavyuh
    03-17 12:06 PM

    My personal advice - you should consult with an experienced attorney with the specifics of your case. This is not a very typical case, and what you hear on this forum may not be very useful for you.

    Need your valuable advice on this serious issue. Involved in shoplifting case, got arrested and plead guilty. Served the community service, and paid fine. Got the �Court Disposition Document� which states that I am all clear. My status is I-485 pending and have EAD, AP documents.
    1. Is it safe to travel to India and come back on AP?
    2. What are the possible chances that visa officer may not let me into the USA?
    3. Do I need to carry any letters from my criminal attorney explaining the situation?
    4. Any one in similar situation, please update me on this?
    5. Please list of documents I need to carry during my travel

    Please reply and post your valuable opinions/suggestions/advices.

    Appreciate all your inputs.

    Have a nice day!!!

    Thank you,


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  • sagis99
    05-22 11:06 AM
    Seems they have taken down all servers.
    I predict all dates magically moving back in time.

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  • glen
    04-03 12:09 PM
    I would say to core group to not spend any of their valuable time and energy replying to negative posts.

    It will be great if IV gets relief this time, if not we are prepared for the long struggle.


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  • immigration1234
    03-17 02:27 PM
    That would be a great idea and thats true!

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  • alapkd
    09-06 11:05 AM
    Well, I like you because you are just a straight shooter. If you are such a straight shooter then let me do some straight talk, so just catch this.

    what makes you think hiring managers eat commission? are you a hiring manager? you think in such big hierarchies in big companies few people who are doing hiring can actually eat commissions lol. you think it works like indian police department where havaladar collects money and buys bidi for fellow havaldars and buys 2 for himself and gives the rest to his sub inspector who in turn gives to inspector and so on and so on? if that was the case one would not want to get promoted to anything other than the idiotic role of hiring manager of consultants. that is the most idiotic thing i have ever heard. there could be few exceptional bad apples but with any descent sized reputable company a manager would risk going to jail and being sued by employer and future life and career screwed if he eats commission like that. i have seen people getting fired and stripped naked for doing this again incidentaly some desis who attempted it. there would be lot of other real or perceived services provided by consulting companies which are keeping a huge chunk of the hourly rate and will keep the person on bench for descent time give other benefits train them and yes with this kind of idiotic software packages train some guy picked up from the street and put him to work. if someone gets a job like that he should be more than happy with 55/hour. dont know what is the educational background of this gentleman who has started the thread but i would like to know what makes him so super special to earn salary of say even 150/hour or 100/hour out of what he thinks is the billing rate of 180/hour that will propel him to about top 3% earners in the economy.


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  • john2255
    07-20 02:43 PM
    I am sorry to start a new thread but I feel the following thread is not getting the importance it should get. Everyone please dont miss the following thread. Its a big defeat during our celebrations.

    Major loss to us Cornyn amendment rejected

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  • gc_rip
    02-10 12:28 PM
    This is an amazing forum, and I would like to thank you all for the useful information.

    I know, it's going to be a long journey, but a start would definitely help.

    Thanks, :)


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  • pcs
    03-27 01:52 PM
    I am a Chemical Engineer ( 16 years in India as a Senior Guy + more than 5 years in US )

    I am a founder team member of a high technology advanced material company, created with the help from a VC & active support of local congressman. We literally reopened a closed factory in Ohio to start this R&D / manufacturing company. ( Politicians have been making a lot of noise to revive manufacturing economy in Midwest)

    We have hired about 18 people till now & we are NOT an IT company

    I was accorded honorary citizenship by the mayor of city of Clinton, MS in 1989 for my extracurricular activities but did not move to US untill 2000

    For last five years I have been through this immigration circus & had to file L/C multiple times. Currently, I am not able to file I-485 & I am in my 6th Year of H1-B

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  • GCplease
    10-05 03:41 PM
    Excellent news.

    Now we are getting support from both the parties.

    First the State Governors wrote a letter in favor of Legal High skilled Immigrants and now the GOP writes to the Dems in favor of Legal High skilled Immigrants. We can't ask for anything more than this. This is the right time.

    We should bang on people like Zoe Lofgren's doors and ask them to create a bill which would only deal with us - Legal High skilled Immigrants. I think all the immigration bills presently on the floor has both legal and illegal immigration and so it would be diificult to pass them. In this present atmosphere a bill on legal high skilled immigrants could easily pass.

    Core IV, please look into this and provide directions.


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  • deafTunes123
    10-02 08:34 AM
    Children born outside India and whose parents are Indian passport holders are not eligible for OCI Cards.

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  • vpgreencard
    07-30 09:49 PM
    Please don't start these kind of useless thread


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  • EndlessWait
    04-08 01:56 PM
    We all admit, that we haven't served our birth land as much as we have served America. Maybe there is calling here amongst all the turmoil with getting GCs.

    Our home country wants us back. I know we have huge issues back in India. Population, Politician :-) etc etc.

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    04-16 02:50 PM
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  • nrk
    08-11 01:05 PM

    please read this

    In all cases, the date the labor certification is filed (directly with the United States Department of Labor for PERM applications, or with a State Workforce Agency for RIR applications)

    from the wikipedia link

    Priority date - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (


    Can some one clarify if the PD is based on the day labor application was received or the day it was approved?

    My I140 states it as the day it was approved.

    06-28 04:09 PM
    Once again. You will get an EAD ONLY if you filed form I-765 along with your I-485. Your I-140 has no bearing on your EAD.


    12-16 04:39 PM
    Hello there,

    I have been wanting to make an IV contribution for a long time and here is my problem..I probably can be labeled a miseror a magpie! ..Whenever I go to the IV link to contribute and see the $50 or $100 option I panic and get out..yes I do!
    I have some desi colleagues and was discussing this issue with them at work..and they had the exact same am not the only magpie..

    But hey is'nt IV the one which is at the receiving end not getting our contributions..

    I speak from my own experience and call me a mapie or a miser..or whatever..I cant make myself make a $50 or more contribution .. thats the way I am..But I can sure make a smaller contribution (like a monthly recurring $10 contribution which really is easier to make) and I am quite sure IV will benefit from my small contributions as well as i think a lot more people will not hesitate making contributions in smaller denominations than a whopper $50+

    And really this is not related to IV effort but more to do with my own way of thinking about parting with my money..I love my money..:)...

    My history - Made $0 contributions so far..and have been wanting to contribute for a long time now..but keep backing away..

    I feel bad about your health ... get well soon :) ...

    And yes nothing come free in life and not even your GC even if your company pays for it ... by the way my company also pays all GC related expenses but still I am with IV ... just filing the application is not enough to get to GC ... in present situation we need a very strong advocacy group and IV is our only means ....

    Hope you will soon realize the truth about your GC dream ....

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