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  • JFreak
    Aug 8, 04:05 AM
    Looks like this will be a significant upgrade. Tiger was not what it was promised to be, in my eyes at least, so now I'm thinking they have finally made it better than Panther.

    Let's see...





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  • chatin
    Aug 22, 09:08 PM
    The Woodcrest processors have been put through their paces pretty well on the supercomputing lists, and their Achille's heal is the memory subsystem. Current generation AMD Opterons still clearly outscale Woodcrest in real-world memory bandwidth with only two cores. Unless Intel pulls a rabbit out of their hat with their memory architecture issues when the quad core is released, AMDs quad core is going to embarrass them because of the memory bottleneck. And AMD is already starting to work on upgrading their already markedly superior memory architecture.

    This is one of the drawbacks of using a server CPU on the desktop. In lights-off Xserve this would not matter as most of the data is already cached in memory.

    I think there might be lights out for future MacPro Xeons if AMD where to catch up in the race.

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  • leekohler
    Mar 7, 07:59 AM
    Here's a tidbit from the pdf:
    This book is dedicated to the
    Holy Family, the sublime model for all
    families, and our sure guide in the
    reaction to the sexual revolution and
    homosexual offensive.

    May the Blessed Mother intercede
    with Her Divine Son for all Americans
    committed to defend the sacred
    institutions of marriage and the family.
    Interesting... wasn't Mary knocked up by an angel and was she really married to Joseph? :confused:

    Whoever wrote this nonsense has no idea how the world really works and what the social and cultural consensus was in the 1700s, the Renaissance and all the way before. Any idealized tradition in family, culture and society the Christians of today are pining for would completely eradicate everything we've worked for to be free and live without fear to be who we are.

    I just have one thing to say to all the righteous religious folk; it's over, end of the line, the jig is up. You've had your chance and you blew it. Join us in the 21st century where liberty, freedom and equality prevail - it's not perfect but it's the best we can do. So, rather than fighting it, join it and help it make better.

    They really think we're the enemy. It's unbelievable.





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  • UK-MacAddict
    Apr 11, 05:12 PM
    If this is true I think Apple are looking to slot yearly iPhone releases into January since the month has been clear for them since they pulled out of Macworld.

    If this is the case then I'll probably sell my black iPhone 4 and get the white iPhone 4 if they really do release it this spring. I wanted the white when they came out and if iPhone 5 is being delayed getting the white will be like a new phone anyways :D

    Also I dont think any iPhone will have 4G until 2013 at the earliest. Many countries dont have it up and running yet and I cant seeing Apple making one specifically for the US market. I live in the UK and the networks wont even be able to start bidding for the technology until early 2012 with devices actually showing up until 2013. So I think Apple will wait until its biggest markets for the iPhone catch up before anything is released.





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  • Bill McEnaney
    Mar 1, 04:13 AM
    You can condemn me to Hell if you want to, I'm still gonna bump uglies with my girlfriend.


    On another note, please join us in the 21st century. Why is it so important to you what other people do? Wouldn't it be very crowded in Heaven if everyone did as you said?
    I have no right to condemn anyone to hell.

    If heaven were very crowded, it wouldn't be very heavenly, would it?





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  • thetexan
    Apr 27, 08:46 AM
    Didn't Google get in trouble for tagging SSIDs of hotspots when running their streetview vans through town? How is this any different, besides the fact you're the van instead of Google?





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  • babyj
    Sep 19, 07:43 AM
    Actually, yes. I use my laptop as a portable desktop, and I do a lot of different things with my computer. My current PowerBook G4 is capable of some of them, but really not practical for many (scientific computing, ray-tracing molecular models, etc.). A current yonah-based MBP would certainly be faster, but it would still be a 32-bit processor, and like many other pro-users, I don't want to have to buy a new machine every year.

    Maybe I'm missing something here, but I'd of thought buying the latest and fastest computer every year would be the first thing a 'pro-user' would do with his money.

    If speed really is that important to all you 'pro-users' why are so many of you using older computers which are far slower than the current Macbooks that have been available for many months?

    If I did something for a living which required heavy cpu processing, spending $1,000 updating it (cost price less resell price of old) would be the best $1,000 I could spend as I'd get the money back through increased productivity very quickly.





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  • NoSmokingBandit
    Nov 24, 11:23 AM
    I'm installing right now. I'd like to just jump in, but i'd rather get it all out of the way to begin with.





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  • AngryCorgi
    Apr 6, 04:16 PM
    Since you have no clue how the sandy bridge airs will perform, I'll take your statement as FUD.

    I'll give you some insight into their potential. The desktop i7-2600k has been benchmarked to be roughly equivalent to a 9400m in performance (assuming similar CPU).

    i7-2600k GPU clock = 850/1350 (normal/turbo)(MHz)
    i5-2410m (13" Mac Pro base) GPU clock = 650/1200 (normal/turbo)(MHz)
    i7-2620m (13" Mac Pro upg) GPU clock = 650/1300 (normal/turbo)(MHz)
    i5-2537m (theorized 11/13 MBA) GPU clock = 350/900 (normal/turbo)(MHz)
    i7-2649m (theorized 13 MBA upg) GPU clock = 500/1100 (normal/turbo)(MHz)

    As you can see, none of the mobile GPUs run quite as fast as the desktop, but the 13" 2.7GHz upg cpu's comes fairly close. Now, the 2.13 GHz MBA + 320m combo matched or beat out the i7-2620m in 75% of the tests (and only narrowly was defeated in 25%). There is going to be some random inconcistancy regardless, due to driver variances in different apps. The issue here is (and this can be shown in core2 vs. i5/i7 testing on the alienware m11x) the core2 duo really very rarely gets beat by the i5/i7 in gaming/video playback. This is because not many games are single-threaded anymore, and if using 2+ threads, the i5/i7 ULV won't jump the clock speed any. Further, the 2.13GHz was keeping up with and beating a 2.7GHz (27% higher clock!) in that test, because graphics are the bottleneck, not the CPU. Take into account that NONE of the ULV core-i options match the MBP 13" 2.7GHz upg GPU speed and its pretty clear that for graphics-intensive apps, the older 320m would be the way to go. Now for most everything else, the i7-2649m would overtake the core2 2.13GHz. This includes a lot of non-accelerated video playback (high-CPU-overhead).

    Something you guys need to be wary of is the 1333MHz memory topic. Likely, Apple will choose to run it down at 1066MHz to conserve battery life. Memory speed hikes = gratuitous battery drain.

    I for one am happy Apple is growing with the modern tech, but I hold no illusions as to the benefits/drawbacks of either system.





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  • bokdol
    Aug 18, 09:48 AM
    you take everything east of kansas and i will take the western region of the usa

    when we have enough money, i can go raid asia and australia/new zealand for old G5s and you can go after europe and the middle east

    when we are done we will be rich and could sit on the same oil board as bin laden, dick cheney, and several of the bush family members

    and based on who is taller, one of us could be dr. evil and the other one will be mini me

    sound good?



    damn and i wanted asia... ahh but europe wont be too bad. damn it i am 5'7 so i might end up with the short end of the stick.





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  • Joshuarocks
    Apr 8, 12:17 AM
    retail sucks dookey.. and Best Buy or Worst Buy can go out of business for all I care





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  • iGary
    Sep 12, 11:02 AM
    The folks over at Anandtech have dropped engineering samples of the quad core cloverton into a Mac Pro - http://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2832&p=6

    and it worked ... all eight cores were recognised.

    The rest of the article was interesting too.

    This willl probably be the update I purchase next year - if it makes it into the Mac Pro - thanks for the link.





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  • michaelz
    Mar 22, 09:32 PM
    This seems to me to be good news in 2 ways:

    1. It makes a few foolish people think twice about purchasing an iPad 2, so I can get mine a little sooner.

    2. It puts the wind up Apple's behind and they work that little bit harder to get us the iPad 3 with the ultra HD display or iPad 2 Retina Christmas Special or whatever else they might call it.

    The iPhone 4 display "changed everything" as Apple like to say, and the sooner they get that thing on the iPad, the better. Then my humdrum life will finally be complete.

    +1

    Seems the tablet competition is really between google's android, webOS and windows 7. Apple already took what it can take. Others are fighting for the leftovers.





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  • BruinJohn
    Sep 19, 09:57 AM
    Along with the 5-7 business days for a MacBook, it says the refurbed white ones will ship out in 30 business days... Does this mean they don't have them in stock? Or does it mean that they are having severe problems that require 30 days to fix and then ship out? I hope it means that because they will be introducing new MB and MBP, they want to hold the refurbed's so that people won't get mad cuz they are going to cut the prices on the current stock of MB to make room for the new MB Core 2 Duos. I'm hoping for a MacBook. My 2.5 year old 12" powerbook still works great, but I want to get an Intel mac, and I already have a Mac Mini, and a G5 iMac, so my Powerbook will have to go soon.





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  • Michael383
    Apr 8, 05:34 AM
    Why anyone would ever choose to buy an Apple product at Best Buy over the Apple Store is beyond me. :confused:

    Because the price points at the Apple store and the Best Buy where I bought my MBP were the same.





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  • Glen Quagmire
    Aug 6, 05:33 AM
    Recap of last twelve months. "We've got plenty of cool new products to release over the next few months that we're really excited about and we hope you will be too."
    Leopard. "We've fixed the Finder. Boom!"
    Mac Pro. "The fastest personal computer ever!"
    XServe (possibly). "Already being installed at Virginia Tech."
    "See you soon!"

    <me fumbles for credit card to order Mac Pro>





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  • Rt&Dzine
    Feb 28, 12:58 PM
    A same-sex attracted person is living a "gay lifestyle" when he or she dates people of the same sex, "marries" people of the same sex, has same-sex sex, or does any combination of these things. I think that if same-sex attracted people are going to live together, they need to do that as though they were siblings, not as sex partners. In my opinion, they should have purely platonic, nonsexual relationships with one another.

    Heterosexual couples need to reserve sex for opposite-sex monogamous marriage. If I had a girlfriend, I might kiss her. But I wouldn't do that to deliberately arouse either of us. If either of us felt tempted to have sex with each other, the kissing would stop right away. I know of a woman who gave an excellent answer when men asked her why saved sex for marriage. She said, "I"m worth waiting for." She lived by her Catholic convictions, and she wouldn't risk letting any man use her as a mere object, as a mere "sex machine."

    Obviously most people, including Catholics, aren't able to adhere to this ideal. So are they not allowed to be married? Obviously not. And I know Catholics who have divorced and remarried. That's equally abhorrent. Yet they're allowed to do this.





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  • satty
    Jul 20, 08:38 AM
    Not that I wouldn't mind more processing power :D ...

    but to me it doesn't make much sense for the majority of tasks/applications.

    There might be rare exceptions in the professinal area and of course it makes lots of sense for a server, but for a single user machine?

    Whatever, bring them on... in this case I like to be proven wrong.





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  • FreeState
    Mar 4, 06:44 PM
    Are they affiliated with WBC?

    Nope. But according to Southern Poverty Law Center they are being watched as a hate group.

    http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2010/winter/the-hard-liners

    Concerned Women for America
    Washington, D.C.

    San Diego, Calif., activist Beverly LaHaye, whose husband Tim would go on to become famous as co-author of the Left Behind novels depicting the end times, started Concerned Women for America (CWA) in 1979 to create an anti-feminist group that matched the power of the National Organization for Women. Today, CWA claims more than 500,000 members organized into state chapters, a radio program that reaches more than 1 million listeners, and a cadre of attorneys and researchers devoted to the group�s mission of promoting biblical values.

    LaHaye has blamed gay people for a �radical leftist crusade� in America and, over the years, has occasionally equated homosexuality with pedophilia. In she hired prominent anti-gay propagandists Robert Knight (now with Coral Ridge Ministries; see below) and Peter LaBarbera (now with Americans for Truth About Homosexuality, above) to launch CWA�s Culture and Family Institute. Matt Barber was CWA�s policy director for cultural issues in 2007 and 2008 before moving on to similar work with the Liberty Counsel (below).

    While at CWA, on April 12, Barber suggested against all the evidence that there were only a �miniscule number� of anti-gay hate crimes and most of those �may very well be rooted in fraudulent reports.� In comments that have since disappeared from CWA�s website, Barber demanded a federal probe of �homosexual activists� for their alleged fabrications of hate crime reports.

    CWA long relied on and displayed Knight�s articles and talking points, including claims that �homosexuality carries enormous physical and mental health risks� and �gay marriage entices children to experiment with homosexuality.� Most remarkably, Knight cited the utterly discredited work of Paul Cameron (see Family Research Institute, below) to bolster claims that homosexuality is harmful.

    Today, CWA continues to make arguments against homosexuality on the basis of dubious claims. President Wendy Wright said this August that gay activists were using same-sex marriage �to indoctrinate children in schools to reject their parents� values and to harass, sue and punish people who disagree.� Last year, CWA accused the Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network (GLSEN), a group that works to stop anti-gay bullying in schools, of using that mission as a cover to promote homosexuality in schools, adding that �teaching students from a young age that the homosexual lifestyle is perfectly natural � will [cause them to] develop into adults who are desensitized to the harmful, immoral reality of sexual deviance.�





    rayz
    Aug 8, 02:31 AM
    Time Machine: the attempts to say this was done before with VMS, System Restore or Shadow Copy are pathetic, and those who made the comparison should be ashamed of themselves. Of course it isn't a completely new idea: it's been something that people have wanted to do for years. As far as I can see, Apple is the company that first demonstrated a practical version of this feature that an ordinary person could use. I predict that Microsoft's implementation will be a complicated mess that regular users find opaque and will not use (just like System Restore is).


    Er ... you right click on the file, select properties, and then just click on the previous versions tab.

    MS has actually put it where most people expect to find it; I thought they might put it on the actual right-click menu, but I honestly don't think that it's going to get used enough for folk to want to have it in their face all the time.

    Oh, and MS doesn't need a separate drive for it to work. If the Apple Time Machine ( :rolleyes: ) really does need a separate drive, then it sounds as if Apple has probably just skinned a version control system it pulled from the open source world.





    DeVizardofOZ
    Aug 27, 04:46 AM
    No hard feelings indeed, but please show me numbers and facts, not anecdotal evidence of some dozens/hundreds of people (as compared to millions of purchasers). I will take your point when you do that, thanks very much. And really, to say that 25% of Apple products are lemons is to be, at very least, extremely glib.

    Besides, if Apple is able to replace/fix those that have problems, there is no reason to complain whatsoever...this is what guarantees and technical support are for.

    Especially the last paragraph of your rebuttal shows that you have not read ALL the threads about MB and MBp problems. I really would like to hear you, when you had your MBP replaced 3 times and still have problems... I have friends who just upgraded to MBPs all have one or more problems, ranging from screen, heat, whine, keyboard, and other problems, some of which they still have to discover. Sorry, buddy, but it truly looks like getting a good MBP is LUCK. I own a couple of laptops, my oldest ones are 9 years old (TOSHIBA), and never ever did I have problems like the ones described on these boards.
    Proof my butt.... Wouldn"t it be nice if these threads had only happy APPLE fans? Dream on.

    We are consumers, and should not accept getting a refurb lemon... but a new, preferably working product.





    RedTomato
    Sep 13, 10:11 AM
    Personally, I still see data transfer, namely from storage media, as a huge bottleneck in performance. Unless you are doing something really CPU intensive (vid editing, rendering, others) Most of the average "wait-time" is the damn hard drive.

    Arrays of cheap RAM on a PCIe card?

    The RAM companies don't seem interested in making wodges of slow cheap hi-cap ram, only in bumping up the speed and upping the capacity. For the last 10 years, a stick of decent RAM has always been about �100/ $100 no matter what the capacity / flavour of the moment is.

    Even slow RAM is still orders of magnitude faster than a HD, hence my point. There's various historical and technical factors as to why we have the current situation.

    I've also looked at RAID implementations (I run a RAID5) but each RAID level has its own problems.

    I've recently seen that single-user RAID3 might be one way forward for the desktop, but don't really know enough about it yet.





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    iliketyla
    Mar 31, 08:46 PM
    This is where the Android "community" is going to split.

    The ones we've heard from today don't give a crap about "open" or "closed" or Google or anything else other than the fact that Android is not Apple and is stealing some sales from Apple. They'll defend whatever Google does, because all they want is a platform that's not by Apple to take over the mobile space.

    The true believers in the "open" propaganda, as ridiculous as it is and as untrue as it's always been, are probably still in a state of shock. By tomorrow they'll split into two warring camps. One will defend everything Google does because they perceive—wrongly of course—that Android is still in some indefinable way more open than iOS, and they'll blow that little invisible kernel of "openness" up until that's all they can see.

    The other camp will be viciously angry at Google's betrayal of the True Religion™ and will be flailing around for some other messiah to deliver them from the "Walled Garden" of Apple and now, Android. These are the people who were saying the other day that "Motorola could rot" with their own OS.

    Any suggestions on who the zealots will turn to in their hour of despair? I honestly can't think of a candidate, but then I'm not nuts—at least not that way.

    Yeah! That's what'll happen!

    Or they'll do further research and realize that the implications in this SINGLE ARTICLE might not be 100% true.

    To the everyday user this means NOTHING as they have no knowledge of what open truly means, and therefore can't take advantage of it.

    To the users who actually have the knowhow to utilize open source operating systems, this might mean a minor hinderance, but not a complete game changer.

    And for clarification, the former is the vast majority.

    Did no one notice the obvious bias in this article? It's slanted, and the author clearly thinks that Google has been wrong this entire time.



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